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Speaker 1

Sometimes all you had was your Bible and a flashlight in the woods and a sleeping bag. And I forget the machine gun. You always have a machine gun next to it.

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Speaker 2

Okay. Christiansen had it all mapped out a doctorate, a clinic, a stable life. But something disrupted the blueprint. And instead of opening a practice.

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Speaker 1

And I got through chiropractic school and just felt like I was being called somewhere else.

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Speaker 1

And the end didn't take long for people to realize there was a chiropractor in the fort, for all you know, forward operating base, whatever. And, next thing I know, I've got a sign outside of my tent that says call for a chiropractic adjustment. And there's no good table out there for me to use at all. And I built a little chiropractic table out in the desert and, yeah, it was it was pretty popular up there.

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Speaker 2

That's awesome.

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Speaker 1

When people leave the military like myself, I have at least found that you're on your own. The military's with. Ill tell you where to be. What to wear, when you can leave, and so on and so on. But you have to get the mindset of being told what to do. My work ethic is just work as if you're working for the Lord.

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Speaker 1

And I think you can do that in any profession.

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Speaker 2

In your eyes, what makes Ultimate Family Chiropractic stand out?

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Speaker 1

We are very involved and very caring about our patients. It's almost like, like a little social club sometimes. And sometimes I forget. Oh, yeah, I'm supposed to be helping you today. You know, like we're not just here to talk and hang out.

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Speaker 2

All right, Tate, welcome to the show. Thank you.

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Speaker 1

Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2

So I'm interested, with your army background. I asked Jeremiah this question the other day. Who would win in a fight? One guerrilla or 100 men with no weapons.

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Speaker 1

One guerrilla or 100 men?

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Speaker 2

Yeah. What do you think? What's your take?

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Speaker 1

So we ask this question a lot in the army, sitting around talking about who would win. I think I'd take 100 dudes against one guerrilla.

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Speaker 1

Maybe even multiple girls at this point. I don't know, really.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. Okay. What's your theory?

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Speaker 1

I think you could swarm them. I think you just jump on them and just do the best you can. He's probably going to get a couple of your friends, but you just got to push on.

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Speaker 2

100 guys. A lot of guys, hundred.

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Speaker 1

Guys is a lot of guys. They can do a lot. I've seen other guys do a lot of cool stuff.

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Speaker 2

Okay. What's the minimum amount of guys you think you've.

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Speaker 1

That's a better question. I think, maybe 25.

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Speaker 2

25.

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Speaker 1

20.

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Speaker 2

Five, but that's not. I mean, that's a lot less.

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Speaker 1

Are we taking the average person or we taking like you pick among five.

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Speaker 2

Army soldiers? Okay.

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Speaker 1

Yeah, I'll go 25.

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Speaker 2

Okay. And then normal guys.

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Speaker 1

Oh, man. Anyone off the street? Maybe. Maybe 35 and 40.

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Speaker 2

Okay. Yeah. Okay.

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Speaker 1

Close.

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Speaker 2

Okay. But. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Sweet. So where did you just get back from?

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Speaker 1

So I've been in the Army for about four years. I spent the last four years with the 75th Ranger Regiment, with their second Battalion in Washington state. So then the chiropractor the whole time, I've been doing chiropractic in Washington, but, finally got back to my hometown in Altoona. So I have to be home.

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Speaker 2

Nice. Yeah. So, how did you get into, Army chiropractor? How did those things mix?

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Speaker 1

Yeah, kind of a reverse of what you'd usually think of as, like, a career path or like where you go after high school. But went to college. You and I, got my biology degree, and then we're on the path towards being a chiropractor. Kind of the family business. Both my parents are chiropractors. And I got through chiropractic school and just felt like I was being called somewhere else, and I didn't know exactly what that meant for me.

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Speaker 1

But I started praying about it and thinking, I just realized God was calling me to military service and didn't really make sense to anyone at the time, my parents thought it was a terrible idea. You know, I had my doctorate in chiropractic and they said, hey, you're you're going to go be a chiropractor. That's what you're going to do.

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Speaker 1

And I said, I think I'm being called somewhere else. So my wife, Jess was very supportive and told me just to go for it. So next thing you know, I'm enlisting in the army, going down to Fort Benning, Georgia, doing the whole thing, training for 11 months and in the Army.

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Speaker 2

But you got all the way through college, all the way through your doctorate program, and totally switched paths.

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Speaker 1

Yeah, I just I started looking around at, you know, veterans and people in the Army and realized that I could, I could, you know, give something. I thought God was telling me to go do that. So that's what we did.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. Cool. So, where did you go? Right out of college. Yeah. So where was basic? So you went into basic, is that right?

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Speaker 1

Yep, yep. I was still in, chiropractic school up in Minnesota, and I was talking to a recruiter. Minnesota. And he got to set up for me. And right after graduation, right after the ceremony, I went down to Fort Benning, Georgia for basic training and, infantry training.

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Speaker 2

Gotcha. What did you what was that process like?

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Speaker 1

Oh, man. That's interesting. It's kind of like, everything's taken from you, and they just, just train you to be a soldier. So they have 22 weeks with you, basic training, just to show you all the stuff with the army and, and, kind of just make you fit the mold for a soldier.

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Speaker 1

But after that, I went to, ranger selection, and then things kind of picked up into high gear there.

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Speaker 1

And, it didn't take long for people to realize that I was a chiropractor, because I'd find some friends who were in aches and pains, and they had kind of been bumped and bruised, and I was like, hey, don't tell anyone, but I can. I can do some adjustments, chiropractic speaking. That'll help you out. And next thing you know, I've got people yelling for me and got lines out the door late at night just to get adjustments.

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Speaker 2

But yeah, out the door, at the barracks door.

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Speaker 1

Barracks tents out in the field, wherever.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. Nice. Yeah, nice. So what was the big difference between basic training and ranger selection?

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Speaker 1

Basic is just for anyone coming into the military. So anyone coming in the army goes through basic training. So you get, like, your basic infantry skills, basic tactics, kind of the indoctrination period and process. And then if you have the contract for it, if you want to volunteer for it, you go off to a Ranger selection.

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Speaker 1

And so you go to the Rast program, where they can just fine tune, filter down who they want. A lot of, a lot of weeks, spent doing push ups, sit ups and running around and, and getting woken up in the middle night. It's a it's a crazy time. But they start with about 160 people and whittle down to about 60 after eight weeks.

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Speaker 1

Wow. And, it's it's a tough selection for sure.

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Speaker 2

Yeah.

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Speaker 1

But, definitely rewarding to be a part of that group.

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Speaker 2

So then what responsibilities do those does that group have versus regular soldiers?

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Speaker 1

Yeah. So the Ranger regiment is a part of the special operations. And so what they do is, kind of a little more specialized types of mission sets or training. They do the airborne stuff. They do vehicle stuff. They do like raid tactics. So they're kind of just the, the elite force they put forward if they want to go do something specialized.

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Speaker 1

I guess. So it got a lot of, you know, really cool people and be a part of some cool things.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. Yeah. So, how many tours did you just the one or.

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Speaker 1

Yeah, two deployments.

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Speaker 2

Two deployments. Yep. Where where did you go after. So was that after then Ranger selection.

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Speaker 1

Yes. Yeah. So rasp and then you get put in your station. So I was up in Washington state. I was there for a couple of years, and then we got our deployment. So we went to Middle East and, and then again, it didn't take long for people to realize there was a chiropractor in the fort for the whole, you know, for operating base or whatever.

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Speaker 1

And, next thing you know, I've got a sign outside of my tent that says call for a chiropractic adjustment and there's no good table out there for me to use at all. So I talked to some of the Navy construction guys out there, and they let me use some of the spare wood they had. So I used a drill and a saw, and I built a little chiropractic table out in the desert.

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Speaker 1

And, yeah, it was it was pretty popular out there.

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Speaker 2

That's awesome. So you're the unofficial chiro of. Yeah, of the group.

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Speaker 1

I would have loved him. An official chiropractor, but just on an official basis.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. So how long were you out there and on your first deployment?

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Speaker 1

I think I was there for a tour, I think two months. So it's pretty, pretty quick one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2

Gotcha. And then came back to Washington. Yep.

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Speaker 1

Came back to Washington. Beautiful.

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Speaker 2

Up there. I was up in Oregon.

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Speaker 1

It is this.

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Speaker 2

Is early this early February.

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Speaker 1

The culmination of the trees and the mountains and the ocean, is pretty awesome. We love to out there.

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Speaker 2

What's the big, how far is Mount Hood from? I guess that's more Oregon, but.

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Speaker 1

Yeah, probably a couple hours from, like, the Seattle Olympia area there.

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Speaker 2

We're kind of the landmarks of Washington state out there.

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Speaker 1

So, Fort Lewis was between Olympia and Seattle. Kind of about an hour from the coast. And then you also have Mount Rainier, which is the big mountain out there. So, you can always see you always know where East is, because you just look off and see Mount Rainier. You're like, all right, there's east. Good to go.

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Speaker 1

That actually helped a lot with training, too.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. How did you like life out in Washington?

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Speaker 1

The nature aspect. Big fan loving nature. But as far as cities go, we we didn't really go to cities very often. We kind of stuck to our little small town. We lived in Yelm, which is a nice little town, kind of like, kind of like the Altoona area here a bit, but we loved it there.

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Speaker 1

We had some great friends, good church. And we we enjoyed the four years we were out there.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. So were you married at that point?

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Speaker 1

Yeah. I've been married to my wife, Jess. Since college.

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Speaker 2

Since college. So she moved out to Washington while you were?

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Speaker 1

No, we were we were already married for a couple of years by that point. Yeah.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, but did she move? Sorry. Did you move out there? Yeah.

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Speaker 1

Yep. Once the training was all over and I was allowed to bring my family where I was stationed. Then she was out there with me.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. Yeah. That's cool. So what what made you guys want to come back here?

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Speaker 1

Our family's in Iowa. That's. We just. We love the Iowa style of life. You know, kind of slow pace and just good people, you know? And we missed just friendly faces wherever we went, so.

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Speaker 2

Right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1

Have you ever lived outside of Iowa before?

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Speaker 2

I lived in Colorado for a summer during an internship. Okay. That would probably be the only extended period of time besides college, which would be you and I. So. Okay.

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Speaker 1

Yeah. Yeah, I would say the people were just more genuine and just friendly and, you know, fun to be around.

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Speaker 2

So, yeah, mountains are fun to be around, too.

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Speaker 1

That's true.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, definitely. So then when was your second deployment?

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Speaker 1

A little bit after that. Just within a year, we went back again, just out to the Middle East again and spent some time in the desert. And, I got to meet a lot of really cool people. Some of the, like, local people were interesting. And then also just some of the who I would call, like the adventures of the U.S. military, like the guys you see on the movies.

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Speaker 1

Yeah. Sometimes I thought I was a cool guy, but compared to these guys and and everyone else, like, they are the biggest, baddest and toughest. And, the cool thing about them is they have a chiropractor on staff who they left at their home base. And they were hoping they could bring him along, but it just didn't work out for them.

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Speaker 1

So when they found out that, I was a chiropractor in the same places they were, they were all lining up to. And, it was really cool to meet them and get to work with them and just kind of hear all their stories. And, that definitely cool people be around.

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Speaker 2

Did you do ever do any adjustments on locals out there? No, no, I did not.

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Speaker 1

The language barrier kind of made it hard when you're trying to put your hands on someone's neck. So I wouldn't try that.

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Speaker 2

No. Not advice. No, no. Was being a chiropractor always the plan? You know, out of high school, that was kind of the direction you kind of knew you wanted to go. Was that because of family business? The family business or, other reasons?

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Speaker 1

I would say there was always a possible plan of mine. Out of high school, I thought, I'm going to go to medical school, I'm going to go work in a hospital, things like that. And I always knew my parents were chiropractors, and that was a very beneficial thing for our family. Just being able to have them adjusted whenever we wanted to,

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Speaker 1

But the father got into college. The more I realized I didn't want to work in a high stress environment, I wanted to be able to have my own clinic to work on patients with my hands. And, didn't wanna get stuck, just kind of prescribing things out to them a little bit. I wanted to be able to use my hands and my skills to help them feel better and to heal.

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Speaker 1

And the more I just kind of went down that path, the more chiropractic fit perfectly for that I wanted.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. So when you decided to enlist, was that something that you didn't want to be a part of anymore or just, you know, was God calling you to be, calling you to go serve, for just a short period of time? Or did you think that that was going to be more of a longer term change?

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Speaker 1

I think it was kind of I didn't know exactly what was going on, but, I was praying about it, and I realized that, I'm going to be able to be in a chiropractic clinic for the next, 50 years if I want to, but if I want to jump out of planes and shoot big guns and rockets and all that kind of fun stuff, those years were kind of ticking by.

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Speaker 1

So, that was the time to go do it kind of my last chance to go do that. Right. So I did that, and what I realized was that God was calling me out there for more of selfless reason than, than initially, I thought. And, the mission field out there was, was vast. People are curious in the military.

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Speaker 1

So, talking about the gospel to soldiers, right. When you're in some tough situations and all you have is the Bible that the military gives you, right? And basic training, people get bored, but they also get curious. And, we talked a lot about the gospel and about Jesus. And and it was a great time. And I learned a lot about how to share the gospel, people, and sharing that with some of the like I said, the bigger, better and tougher people kind of.

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Speaker 1

It was, it was a big moment for me to just progress through my faith. And now talking to people about it is a lot easier.

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Speaker 2

So what? That. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. When you were on on base or when you were deployed, how often did those conversations come up and were they pretty natural, or was it something that, like you brought into conversation? I guess what's the. Evangelist.

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Speaker 1

There's a couple different ways. Yeah. I kind of got pegged as the the, like the Christian guy in the platoon a little bit early on, and, so that's you. Me read my Bible, and they were like, oh, don't do that around it because he's not going to like you or whatever. So it was just a good opportunity to tell them, you know, what I thought and what the Bible says and, and, share with them that we're all broken people and need Jesus, but, and then that led to Bible study and whatever else.

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Speaker 1

But the cool ones were when we're in kind of a, a scary situation or like getting ready for a scarier, more serious situation, and people get a little emotional and they want to ask questions, you know, like, this might be it, right? I need to ask you these questions. And so we, would sit down and talk real quick while we had some time.

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Speaker 1

And, it was it was really special.

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Speaker 2

What were some of your, your go to scriptures in those moments of, being scared?

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Speaker 1

My favorite. One of my it's hard to pick a favorite, but the one I always go to, I put on the back of my business cards from my office to is Romans 116. For I'm not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it's the power of God to work saving all who believe. And, it's just the gospel message right there.

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Speaker 1

And it's it's an encouragement to people, that I'm talking to or that have, you know, looked at the verse, but it's also an encouragement to me, that I should be bold and take action wherever I can. I shouldn't be ashamed of that.

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Speaker 2

So, yeah, definitely. When was it time to be done with the Army and and start to make your move back?

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Speaker 1

So, we had our daughter Ruth, while we were in Washington, and she's almost two now. She turns to action a couple of weeks. But those deployments and the training and being gone from home, it's hard enough when you're married, but when you have kids, it is extremely hard, just to have to FaceTime or whatever to just, you know, see your daughter.

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Speaker 1

So, I knew at that point that there was time to come home, time to finish up my work there and to start working on our family and working on, putting down roots here in Iowa. So back into the full steam ahead chiropractic mode.

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Speaker 2

Right? Yeah, yeah. So how did your parents originally get into their chiropractor chiropractic practice?

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Speaker 1

I think I've asked them a couple times, and they had maybe a chiropractor they went and saw when they were growing up as kids. And I know my dad wanted to go into pharmacy in college. But I think he realized the same thing I did that, if you want to help people and you want to be hands on and you want to build relationships and get to know, like your patients, that being a chiropractor is a very rewarding but also an effective way to help people.

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Speaker 1

And so they started that and, oh, me, in the 90s and, they started out turning it into chiropractic, when I was just a kid. So I got to grow up and watch them build the practice, which was really cool.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. What did you learn from that? Watching them build something from nothing.

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Speaker 1

They were always very creative, and they were always involved with the community. So, growing up in the Park district, they would always do with, like, the parades and the Altoona palooza, and, they'd even set up, like, a pop up tent with their table for the Ragbrai when it came through town. And they had a just the riders, who just, you know, we're, you know, tired and had some aches and pains.

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Speaker 1

So, seeing that in the early 2000 was kind of, it was a cool moment for me to just watch them do that and, just watch the creativity, I guess, and how they got involved with the community.

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Speaker 2

Or any of your other siblings in the chiropractic field.

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Speaker 1

No. My sister Carly does help with the front desk at my mom's clinic. So we get to work together, the three of us, which is fun. But they all have my their segments have their own professions and things that go after, too.

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Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I actually graduated with Jace. Yes, brother.

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Speaker 1

Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah. I told them that I was going to have, kind of an interview with you. Yeah, and they thought that was crazy. Just one of those small world moments, you know?

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Speaker 2

Yeah, definitely. Cool. How much older are you than Jess?

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Speaker 1

Jess was born in oh one, so he is six years younger than I am.

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Speaker 2

Gotcha. That's about how far I am from my brother. Okay. He's younger. Yeah, he just graduated high school. Gupta. So was Jake the youngest?

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Speaker 1

No, he's the middle. So. Okay. Zoli. So I was born in oh six. So she is the youngest. Gotcha. Yep.

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Speaker 2

In your eyes, what makes Altoona Family Chiropractic stand out from other practices in the area?

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Speaker 1

So I think I'll turn it into chiropractic. Stands out from other clinics because we are, very involved and very caring about our patients. And, we have great relationships with them. Over time, it's usually seems like they become almost family. They come in and we spend half the time just talking about their weekends and their days and their kids and and their plans.

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Speaker 1

And it's just a lot of fun. It's almost like, like a little social club sometimes. And sometimes I forget. Oh, yeah, I'm supposed to be helping you today. You know, like we're not just here to talk and hang out. But it is. It's a lot of fun. And I look forward to seeing all the patients that I see all the time.

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Speaker 2

Yeah. What are some common issues that people come into the clinic with?

00;20;14;04 - 00;20;37;25

Speaker 1

So the common ones, headaches. People have a lot of headache complaints. They come in with, a lot of the blue collar guys can come in with, extreme low back pain. So everything from, like, bulging disc, sciatic pain, like neuropathy, ridicule, apathy, shooting pains down the legs, things like that. And sometimes it takes them out of work completely.

00;20;37;27 - 00;20;57;18

Speaker 1

I've had some people in the recent, you know, history where they've come in and, and they're like, hey, I've missed work for multiple days. And I'm just looking for anything that'll help. And they're kind of panicking. And I love working with people like that because they're kind of on their last leg, you know, they're looking for something that can help them, so they can get back to work and, and provide for the families.

00;20;57;18 - 00;21;02;12

Speaker 1

And, it is just so much fun to help them get back to where they want to be.

00;21;02;14 - 00;21;11;17

Speaker 2

How do you approach, building that trust and relationship with new, customers? Clients?

00;21;11;17 - 00;21;30;14

Speaker 1

Yeah, definitely. So the the toughest ones are the people who come in and they're in a panic because they're in pain, and and they're just tired of being in pain. So usually I just look them in the eye and say, hey, you're not the first person here who's had this pain. I know it's really painful for you, and I know it's bothering unit and it's make it so you can't work.

00;21;30;14 - 00;21;48;12

Speaker 1

But I've helped people like you before. You're not the first one, and I just give them a little bit of confidence and assurance that this is going to be okay, right. And, it might take some time. We're not going to fix you just in one adjustment, but, just trust me. And we're going to get through this together, and and hopefully it gives them a little bit assurance.

00;21;48;12 - 00;21;52;10

Speaker 1

And I can see sometimes it calms them down a little bit. Yeah I think it helps quite a bit.

00;21;52;12 - 00;22;09;13

Speaker 2

Yeah. What's been the toughest learning curve adjusting from you okay. So you went through college. You got your degree and all of that your certifications and then kind of jumped ship went to the military. What's been that adjustment period? Like coming back.

00;22;09;15 - 00;22;32;05

Speaker 1

Yeah. So out of school, we'll say, when you're in school, everything is textbook examples. Right. So it's just patient has this, this and this. What's the answer. And it's just kind of multiple choice at that point. Or maybe a little more open question, but there's always a right answer and there's always a script with that. And so when you go into the real world, it's not always just going to fit the textbook definitions.

00;22;32;07 - 00;22;48;06

Speaker 1

So from school, that's the biggest thing that, that, you have to keep in mind. But, with the military, the other lesson I learned is, the military is what it will tell you where to be, what to wear, when you can leave, and so on and so on. Everything down to the detail is already set in place for you.

00;22;48;06 - 00;23;06;21

Speaker 1

You just you do what you're supposed to do, right? When people leave the military, like myself, I have at least found that you're on your own, you know, and that's a great thing. There's a lot of freedom with that. But you have to get the mindset of being told what to do, and you have to take all the action and join hands.

00;23;07;09 - 00;23;10;07

Speaker 1

Which is good, but a little bit of an adjustment there, too.

00;23;10;09 - 00;23;13;17

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Especially as a business owner. Not an employer.

00;23;13;17 - 00;23;26;01

Speaker 1

Definitely. Yeah, definitely. As, a business owner and working on your own, you know, you don't have an employer who says, hey, show up at this time and you're getting paid this amount and blah, blah, blah. It's all it's all up to you, right?

00;23;26;01 - 00;23;33;29

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. How did your time in the army shape, how you handle, like, pressure or stress or or setbacks?

00;23;34;02 - 00;23;52;23

Speaker 1

Yeah, I've learned a lot. We could probably fill an entire podcast with military life lessons. There's a couple that stick with me. I have met some very, very scary people, and they've been right up in my face and they've, you know, that was their job was to kind of stress me out, put me in a like a fight or flight, state.

00;23;52;25 - 00;24;10;24

Speaker 1

And it works. And so it's kind of like the movie quote, you know, I've been chewed out before. Right? And so when I'm dealing with people and, and I just think if I'm nervous, I've been chewed up before, you know, I've been through, some pretty intense face to face interactions, and there's no way it's going to be worse today than it has been before.

00;24;10;27 - 00;24;17;24

Speaker 1

So it helps me kind of just have some perspective and just, calm down in the moment and take care of business.

00;24;17;28 - 00;24;27;00

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. Do you have any personal philosophies or mantras that guide you in life?

00;24;27;02 - 00;24;48;20

Speaker 1

My Bible is always what provides, just like my work ethic and what drives me and my purpose. But, I think Matthew five, in the Beatitudes, it talks about you are the light of the world. Right. And just to share that wherever you go, so my work ethic is just work as if you're working for the Lord.

00;24;48;22 - 00;25;05;09

Speaker 1

And I think you can do it in any profession. Right? You could work anything. And, you just work at it as if you're working for the Lord and share the gospel in any possible way you can. And it's not just in a certain mission field. It's. It's every day to day life and people you interact with.

00;25;05;09 - 00;25;07;20

Speaker 1

So that's kind of what drives.

00;25;07;23 - 00;25;19;03

Speaker 2

My day to day. Yeah. What's your faith journey been like growing up? And, and where you are now today?

00;25;19;05 - 00;25;40;00

Speaker 1

Yeah. So I grew up in the church, parents, I can thank them for, you know, making sure I'm in Sunday school and attending and all that. But I definitely made my faith my own when I got out of kind of the high school college era, became kind of my own person and realized this is not just a program I'm supposed to subscribe to, you know, you know, to make it my own.

00;25;40;00 - 00;26;08;20

Speaker 1

And so I did. And, and it's been great, but I've definitely grown every single year and in every chapter of life, stronger and stronger in my faith and and just relying on Jesus, on a more consistent basis. And in the military definitely did that to me. Sometimes all you had was your Bible and a flashlight in the woods and a sleeping bag, and it's like, well, today kind of sucks, but, you just pray and and seek the Lord, and then I'll be okay.

00;26;08;22 - 00;26;14;13

Speaker 2

Yeah. What situation had you in the woods with just a flashlight and Bible.

00;26;14;14 - 00;26;23;03

Speaker 1

Oh man. Almost every couple weeks in a year on some kind of training thing and, and I forget the machine gun. You always have a machine gun. Next.

00;26;23;06 - 00;26;25;05

Speaker 2

Okay, okay. But yeah.

00;26;25;08 - 00;26;42;26

Speaker 1

Just kind of being in a patrol base, eating MREs, you know, Ranger school, that's basically all you did was sit in the woods, eat and stay awake all night long. And I'd always put my little chem light out, my little glow stick, or my little red light, and. And if I was awake, I would just.

00;26;42;27 - 00;26;45;13

Speaker 1

I'd read my Bible and I'd just stay awake that way.

00;26;45;16 - 00;26;46;16

Speaker 2

But yeah.

00;26;46;19 - 00;26;50;18

Speaker 1

Not the best times, but, it makes for some good stories.

00;26;50;18 - 00;26;56;13

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. What's another what's one of your favorite or most memorable stories?

00;26;56;16 - 00;27;14;23

Speaker 1

Oh, man. So if anyone from my unit listens to this will just kind of roll their eyes and laugh because everyone tells you stories. But, so in the swamp phase of Ranger School, you spend, I don't know, like ten days out in the swamps, in the woods and stuff. And at that point, people knew I was a chiropractor.

00;27;14;25 - 00;27;33;06

Speaker 1

And so we'd been out there for a long time. I just had a couple people in the swamps, and it was gets interesting with the, the mud and the swamp penis. But, we got back to the barracks after this long ten day thing, and we're all covered in face paint, and we hadn't showered for ten days. But the first people that came in, they were asking for adjustments, like, right away.

00;27;33;08 - 00;27;49;06

Speaker 1

And we hadn't slept for a long time. But. So anyways, I just said, all right, let's do this. And so I'm adjusting people over and over and over again. And next thing I know it's like 2 a.m., everyone's already showered and gone to bed, and I'm still in the middle of the barracks floor with my red light, and I'm adjusting people.

00;27;49;06 - 00;27;59;01

Speaker 1

And I went to the bathroom to shower, and I realized I still have my camouflage and my face paint on and everything. But I was just happy to, to help them, and I'm glad they appreciated that too.

00;27;59;05 - 00;28;11;12

Speaker 2

Yeah. What were some of the things that you adjusted in the Army that maybe you don't see in civilian life? Is there any differences or kind of some similarities?

00;28;11;12 - 00;28;37;14

Speaker 1

It's a good question. So a lot of like neck strain from just wearing rucksacks usually. So a lot of guys had really tight necks and sometimes it can be hard to adjust. But yeah, a lot of, surgical adjustments, a lot of migraines in the Army. But also just, like suggestions for the, the low back.

00;28;37;16 - 00;28;54;05

Speaker 1

And that's not atypical from what I see on a daily basis. Just the cause of those is a little different. A lot of adjustments given out the after like after like an airborne jump or something. I'd have a lot of guys line up and want adjusted because like man I landed on that tarmac pretty hard.

00;28;54;08 - 00;29;01;18

Speaker 1

But yeah that makes sense. You probably need adjusted. Let's take care of that for you. And I don't hear that very often. And not to not, but yeah.

00;29;01;20 - 00;29;06;08

Speaker 2

Yeah. How do you adjust for a migraine.

00;29;06;10 - 00;29;28;29

Speaker 1

Yeah. So, neck adjustments. So cervical adjustments. Here's a little bit of chiropractic philosophy, but all the signals that come from the brain go through the spinal cord and the eggs of the spinal cord through the nerve roots. And some of those actually travel back up. They loop through and back up to the brain. And so when you have migraines, you have headaches.

00;29;29;02 - 00;29;46;21

Speaker 1

A lot of times what I'm looking for is the upper cervical to be out of alignment. So a subluxation, which is just a misalignment of the spinal bones. I'm looking for a C1, C2 and and those affect those nerves that go right back up to the brain. And that's usually the first thing I'm doing.

00;29;46;21 - 00;29;49;27

Speaker 1

But, there could be a whole host of other things going on to get you.

00;29;49;27 - 00;30;12;15

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. I want to go back to when you were talking about your purpose. So, so in those ups and downs of military service or business college life in general, how has your relationship with God shaped your perspective on purpose or perseverance or serving others? Yeah.

00;30;12;17 - 00;30;36;21

Speaker 1

Another one of my favorite, references from the Bible comes from the Book of John. And, it's just saying, man has no greater love than this than to lay down his life for his friends, which is what he did. So if you're following after Christ and you're trying to find his example, then when you're life down for your friends comes in many forms, it comes in the form of, like, military service, right?

00;30;36;21 - 00;30;57;22

Speaker 1

Those that have died in the past. But it also comes in the form of putting others before yourself. So being selfless and, I don't always do the best of that. I'm not. I'm not perfect. I fall short of that all the time. But what I strive to do is put others before myself. So when I'm in the clinic, when I'm at home, ideally what I'm doing is I'm putting those people and their needs before my own.

00;30;57;24 - 00;31;16;26

Speaker 1

So as a chiropractor, it's what's the, you know, what might be the financially most I don't know, the best answer for me isn't always the best answer for the patient. So realizing that and realizing, okay, I'm working for the Lord, what does this patient need for me? How do I show them love? How do I give them care?

00;31;16;26 - 00;31;21;12

Speaker 1

And how do I take care of them? Yeah. And that's it's kind of what drives what I do.

00;31;21;14 - 00;31;28;03

Speaker 2

You've mentioned to me before that you've wanted to work with Sally spoke athletes. What drives that passion?

00;31;28;06 - 00;31;52;17

Speaker 1

I have been a Sally's. You know, I grew up in the slowpoke area. I played football on track and all that. And, when I was in the games, I always appreciated the people on the sidelines were there to help out. And when I got into chiropractic, I realized, man, it would be great if they had someone on the sidelines or someone before the game who could give them adjustments and help the athletes so they can function and perform at their highest levels.

00;31;52;19 - 00;32;08;00

Speaker 1

I've seen that with, you know, like every NFL team has its own chiropractor on staff. I've worked with college athletes in the past. I've worked with, like I said, some of the biggest and badass people in the US military, and they have their own personal staff. And I just thought, wow, so these folks are doing really well.

00;32;08;07 - 00;32;14;11

Speaker 1

They've won some championships. They're a great team. And I think, why not have a chiropractor on staff with them?

00;32;14;13 - 00;32;21;13

Speaker 2

And what's the big major difference between someone like you and chiropractor? Chiropractic or. I like a physical trainer.

00;32;21;16 - 00;32;44;25

Speaker 1

Sure. Yeah. So the trainer is going to work more on strengthening the muscles, strength and endurance. And just kind of rehabbing muscles that are injured. But where a chiropractor steps in and specializes is, working on the misalignments of the spine. So the whole structure, the anatomy, the, the symmetry of the spine is what drives, posture and strength.

00;32;44;28 - 00;33;04;29

Speaker 1

And when something's out of alignment or, as people say, out of whack, you know, some of those elite athletes and elite soldiers will tell you, like, hey, I'm not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure it's probably like L4. And I think it's right rotated. And sure enough, they know it because it's out. So they're just looking for that adjustment that helps them, you know, push it to the limits every time.

00;33;05;01 - 00;33;11;13

Speaker 1

It's really cool when they can realize almost exactly what's going on with their body. And they just they know that a chiropractic adjustments, what they need.

00;33;11;15 - 00;33;17;08

Speaker 2

What other community events or programs would you like to get involved with now that you're back? Yeah.

00;33;17;11 - 00;33;36;20

Speaker 1

I would love to just get it as rooted in the community as possible. Especially with our terms in the chiropractic, just being from the area, always being an Altoona miracle kind of guy. I would love to work with the athletes, but I also would love to work with the teachers and the staff. Everyone needs chiropractic care.

00;33;36;22 - 00;33;53;16

Speaker 1

Everyone from little babies, you know, to preschool kids to kids in elementary school and up towards, you know, teachers and those that are retired and people in their 90s, even, we have a lot of patients in the 90s. But, I would just love, love to be the person they go to and they rely on and trust for the chiropractic care.

00;33;53;20 - 00;33;57;04

Speaker 2

How much work do you do with babies? Infants?

00;33;57;07 - 00;34;04;02

Speaker 1

Quite a bit, actually. So when my daughter was born, I adjusted her the day she was born.

00;34;04;04 - 00;34;05;21

Speaker 2

Wow. Yeah.

00;34;05;24 - 00;34;23;07

Speaker 1

It was kind of kind of freaked out the the staff that was there for the delivery, but, I just I'm here, I'm a chiropractor, and I'm going to adjust my daughter, and they kind of just let me do my thing. But being born for a baby is is a, you know, a miracle, of course, but it's also it's a lot of work.

00;34;23;07 - 00;34;42;02

Speaker 1

Right? And it can be a little traumatic, especially when you're, you know, they're coming through and they're kind of getting twisted and stuff and pulled out. So I always check the neck, of a newborn and to make sure that there's not too much rotation and that the baby can turn their head left and right, up and down, make sure that the range motion they need.

00;34;42;04 - 00;34;52;04

Speaker 1

But the, the adjustments for babies are totally different than for an adult. I just put a little bit of pressure like that, and it's so springy that it goes right back where it's supposed to be.

00;34;52;11 - 00;34;54;08

Speaker 2

Wow. Yeah. That's nuts.

00;34;54;09 - 00;35;05;01

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah. People are sometimes worried that I'm going to do, like, the whole cruncher thing with the baby. But I tell the parents, like, don't worry, this is way, way different. So much more gentle.

00;35;05;03 - 00;35;08;28

Speaker 2

Yeah. How do you, how can you feel what needs adjusted.

00;35;09;00 - 00;35;25;21

Speaker 1

Yeah. So I am using my hands. I'm using my fingers to feel the spine. Now it doesn't just come overnight. When I was in school it took practice and practice and, and sometimes you'd have classmates who are like, do you feel this? Like, do you know what's going on? And sometimes you're just like, yeah, sure.

00;35;25;21 - 00;35;40;05

Speaker 1

Of course I know what's going on. I know what I'm doing. But eventually, you know, you start to realize, okay, this does make sense. And you kind of build the, the sensory for, the spine. Right? And so I'm feeling for rotations and inflections, extensions and and so on.

00;35;40;11 - 00;35;42;04

Speaker 2

Yeah. So how do you train that.

00;35;42;06 - 00;36;00;04

Speaker 1

Yeah. So the cool trick that I learned, my dad told me this, he said, if you're having a hard time in school, he called me when I was in chiropractic school. He said, if you're having a hard time and you're frustrated, just take your Bible with the very thin pages and take a piece of hair and just work on feeling the hair underneath the page, he said.

00;36;00;04 - 00;36;06;27

Speaker 1

Once you've mastered that, add another page and then keep going and feel it until you know it's there. And then keep adding pages and adding pages.

00;36;06;28 - 00;36;08;18

Speaker 2

So how many pages did you get up to?

00;36;08;19 - 00;36;14;20

Speaker 1

Oh man, I got maybe close to like five, maybe 5 to 10 pages. Something like.

00;36;14;20 - 00;36;14;27

Speaker 2

That.

00;36;14;28 - 00;36;18;25

Speaker 1

Yeah, maybe. At some point I started thinking, I know what you know, I could do it, but we'll say.

00;36;18;25 - 00;36;20;04

Speaker 2

5 to 10. Start imagining.

00;36;20;04 - 00;36;21;21

Speaker 1

Yeah, not a whole book of the Bible.

00;36;21;22 - 00;36;30;25

Speaker 2

But yeah, yeah. What types of content or outreach have you seen work well with Altoona Family Chiropractic? Do you guys post at all?

00;36;30;28 - 00;36;50;14

Speaker 1

Yeah. So my friends and family call me a boomer. You know, they say that. I have no idea. I don't I don't know what I'm doing at all. But I'm learning. And so we started do a couple of Facebook posts. We even got, like, an Instagram account hooked up or something. So we do some fun videos, just things we think people might enjoy seeing.

00;36;50;17 - 00;37;14;06

Speaker 1

Some of it's informational. But a lot of it's just kind of goofy stuff because we're goofy people. We have fun. But yeah, we're still learning. A lot of what we do, a lot of the, the effective kind of marketing is just the face to face. So whenever I can get in and and talk to people, you know, one on one or just in a small group setting, I find that very effective, and it usually works for me.

00;37;14;08 - 00;37;34;23

Speaker 1

But besides that, it's just referrals. You know, we have people who who love coming in and they've they've seen big changes. They they love being adjusted. And they go tell their friends and family about it. And they might not have heard of chiropractic before, but they come in. And that's probably the second biggest, means of, of getting people in is referrals.

00;37;34;23 - 00;37;38;24

Speaker 2

Yeah. What's your guys's process look like for somebody walking in the door? Sure.

00;37;38;24 - 00;38;02;20

Speaker 1

Yeah. So in, Des Moines and my mom shop at the Body Shop, we put them through kind of an evaluation. We do some range of motion, we do orthopedic tests, and then we take X-rays. We use X-rays to see what's going on with the spine. Look for variations and so on and so on. And then we have them come in and we kind of build a report for them.

00;38;02;22 - 00;38;23;16

Speaker 1

And we do a very similar thing in Altoona. We do the range motion, we do orthopedic tests. And then we also put them through a series of nerve scans. So nerve scans tell us what's going on with hot spots with the muscles, hot spots with the nerves that go to the organs. And then, also just like your your ability to go back and forth with, stress and relaxation.

00;38;23;19 - 00;38;36;22

Speaker 2

So. Yeah. Yeah. So you take them through that assessment, diagnose the, the issue. Do you guys do X-rays?

00;38;36;24 - 00;38;43;27

Speaker 1

No. In Altoona. We don't have X-rays right now, but, we are talking about getting that back and running, by the fall.

00;38;43;29 - 00;38;46;14

Speaker 2

So what's that next step? Look like after that assessment?

00;38;46;17 - 00;39;07;27

Speaker 1

Yeah. So once I've done the assessment, I always tell, the patient, give me some time to look over everything. Let me build kind of an attack plan of how to help you. Start feeling better again. And so I build something for them that, kind of fits their needs, fits their schedule, fits their finances, and kind of works towards getting them back on their feet as quickly as we can.

00;39;08;01 - 00;39;16;06

Speaker 1

Yeah. And then I show them kind of in the presentation, what that would look like next time they come in and then we just talk about it and go from there.

00;39;16;09 - 00;39;22;08

Speaker 2

Where do you see yourself and the family practices and the like in the future and the next five, ten years? Yeah.

00;39;22;10 - 00;39;50;12

Speaker 1

I always joke that I'm going to take over my dad's business because we just we teach each other a lot. We're very competitive, but, he says he's going to work till he's 85 years old, so, we'll probably work together for the next decades. And, I think we just want to get our goal is to get as rooted in, in the Altoona community as possible, just to build relationships with, leaders in the community, with the school districts, with people in other small businesses.

00;39;50;15 - 00;39;55;16

Speaker 1

And, and just to be that the name that trusts for their chiropractic care.

00;39;55;18 - 00;40;00;08

Speaker 2

So tell me a little bit more about the chiropractic philosophy.

00;40;00;08 - 00;40;23;21

Speaker 1

Yeah, sure. A lot of people think that chiropractic care was, created to treat low back pain, which makes sense. A lot of people who come in do have a low back pain. But we always have a little pop quiz and ask that question, and I just tell people, hey, that's true. But what chiropractic actually was, brought up for was to help your overall health.

00;40;23;23 - 00;40;44;11

Speaker 1

And so what we're concerned with or what I'm concerned with as a chiropractor is your wellness and everything that goes on with your entire body, not just your lower back, not just your spine, but how are your organs functioning, how are your muscles functioning, and how does all work together? So my job as a chiropractor, I always tell people is pretty easy.

00;40;44;13 - 00;41;07;27

Speaker 1

From from where I take it, I am just putting things back where they're supposed to be. The body was created to heal itself. God gave us a body that has a lot of awesome functions and intricate ways of doing that. And when everything's aligned, you have systems in place to heal yourself and to heal wounds and to take care of things.

00;41;07;27 - 00;41;24;23

Speaker 1

Kind of like a system check on a computer, like, hey, we need more of this. We need more of that. Okay, let's take care of it. So my job, like I said, is super easy. I just put bones back where they're supposed to be, reducing interference that's going on with the nerves, and the nerves can then send signals to the whole body like it's supposed to.

00;41;25;25 - 00;41;27;07

Speaker 1

And take care of itself.

00;41;27;10 - 00;41;35;22

Speaker 2

So how does the or how do muscles and organs relate to the adjustments that you're making?

00;41;35;23 - 00;41;36;01

Speaker 1

Sure.

00;41;36;01 - 00;41;37;06

Speaker 2

Yeah. Explain that a little bit more.

00;41;37;06 - 00;42;04;00

Speaker 1

So in like, like a 32nd neurology. Right. We can do another one on neurology to, I guess some point. So the brain send signals to the whole body. And so those are action nerves, right. And they send information. But the body also sends information back to the brain. Those are called afferent neurons. So they're the sensory ones are telling the brain, hey, this is what we have down here towards the legs, or this is what we have going on in the liver, in the sends it up to the brain.

00;42;04;08 - 00;42;24;09

Speaker 1

The brain makes decisions and sends information back to the organs and muscles and so on. And they're kind of super highway. The interstate system for those nerves is the spinal cord. So when there's things going on that are causing interference, they're irritating, you know, the spine, it puts pressure on. We'll call it like traffic jams almost right on the highway.

00;42;24;12 - 00;42;41;11

Speaker 1

And so the signals aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing. In those chiropractic adjustments make it so that those we'll call them interstate systems again for the nerves, can just go as fast as they can back up to the brain and back down from the brain. It's kind of what we do as well.

00;42;41;11 - 00;42;47;21

Speaker 2

Yeah. What advice would you give someone that's starting out in the chiropractic field.

00;42;47;23 - 00;43;15;06

Speaker 1

Yeah. There's a couple things I'd tell them for advice. The first is just ask all the questions you can, from your mentors, from if you're interning with a doctor, gain all the information you can and don't don't take for granted the stuff you learned in school, either. Sometimes you can get to school a ways and just kind of throw the textbooks aside, but, that information is there for a reason, and it's there for your resource helping people feel better.

00;43;15;09 - 00;43;35;08

Speaker 1

So definitely stay stay engaged and always learn every day. The other thing I'd say is, you gotta grow some tough skin. You're going to come across people who think you're a witch doctor or are doing voodoo or something. And just learn that people are not always gonna say yes, like they're going to tell you no.

00;43;35;10 - 00;43;36;17

Speaker 2

Yeah.

00;43;36;20 - 00;43;50;13

Speaker 1

So for every person who tells you, yes, there might be like 4 or 5 that say no to you, or want nothing to do with you. And sometimes I can take that personally. Sometimes, you know, I have some come in and and it seems like me and I thought we hit it off, but I don't know what happened.

00;43;50;21 - 00;44;01;09

Speaker 1

And people just told me, my mentors told me you just got to accept it sometimes, you know, not everyone's going to be your best friend and and, just roll with the punches a little bit.

00;44;01;12 - 00;44;04;23

Speaker 2

Right? Yeah, yeah. What about working for the family business?

00;44;04;25 - 00;44;26;08

Speaker 1

Working with family? I'm sure is. Can be interesting for different. You know, everyone has a little different family, dynamic. But, just address things as they come up. Don't let things bottle up. Right. Have some grace, forgiveness. You know, if you want to live together and work together, sometimes you can have a little tension, but, it it is.

00;44;26;08 - 00;44;35;19

Speaker 1

It's awesome to work with family. It is really a blessing. And, it's rewarding just to be able to hang out all day, every day and kind of succeed together, right?

00;44;35;19 - 00;44;44;13

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. Looking back, what's one lesson you've learned that you wish you might have known sooner?

00;44;44;16 - 00;45;02;25

Speaker 1

Patience. I'm a I don't know if it's the military or what, but, kind of just stuck in high gear all the time, and it's hard for me to sit down and and just, process things and and just enjoy the moment. I'm always just trying to get up and go and go do something else. So sometimes I just have to learn to to sit down and slow down a little bit.

00;45;02;28 - 00;45;07;00

Speaker 2

How did the military teach you patience. Oh boy.

00;45;07;03 - 00;45;33;08

Speaker 1

I think I learned patience. Dealing with, just decision processes in the military. You're put in a situation where the things you are allowed to do or the things you are told to do might always line up with what you wish to do. Right? So learning just to take a deep breath, realize I'm not in control of the situation.

00;45;33;10 - 00;45;52;18

Speaker 1

And just to find a way that kind of just works for both parties a little bit, or just be okay with the fact that you're not in control. What time? No one likes to be out of control of situations or to have people tell them what to do. And so that was probably the toughest part about the military for me, was trying to be my own person.

00;45;52;18 - 00;46;01;22

Speaker 1

And be independent. When someone's telling me exactly what to do or not to do. So, I can definitely appreciate that now. And, I've learned from it a little bit.

00;46;01;25 - 00;46;13;15

Speaker 2

Yeah. Yeah. What are the major lessons have you learned through your career. Yeah.

00;46;13;17 - 00;46;34;14

Speaker 1

I just that I've run into so many really cool people, especially in the military. Some of the best people I've ever met were people I worked with, whether in the Ranger regiment or somewhere else. And, you know, like being arrogant, being egotistical. You think I'm pretty cool, right? I'm pretty good at what I do or whatever.

00;46;34;17 - 00;46;49;24

Speaker 1

And then you meet some other people from all across the country who are also there, and you're like, wow, that guy's bigger, faster, stronger and smarter. And, it's just really cool to see them all work together, and serve the country. And, they're just really, really great people.

00;46;49;27 - 00;46;54;27

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00;46;55;00 - 00;47;03;08

Speaker 2

If a listener is thinking about, a chiropractor but is hesitant, what would you want them to know?

00;47;03;11 - 00;47;21;04

Speaker 1

Yeah. Stop watching the Instagram videos of the cracked things. I've had that a lot recently. People come in and they're like, is this going to be like the video I saw online? No, it's not. I don't have a microphone set up next to your neck or anything like that to listen to the adjustments. I only adjust what I need to adjust.

00;47;21;07 - 00;47;39;12

Speaker 1

It's very precise. It's very gentle. And there's a plan, right? It's it's it's very clinical. It's not for for likes or anything. So, whatever you see online, don't pay attention to that. It's not real. It's not chiropractic. It's just clickbait. And what I do has a purpose. I'll tell them that, too.

00;47;39;18 - 00;47;47;02

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, if there's, listeners looking to get some adjustments made, where can they find you? Where can they reach out?

00;47;47;02 - 00;48;03;13

Speaker 1

Yeah. So, best way is just to walk in the door and turn it into chiropractic. Or call the front desk. Kim and Joyce are always happy to talk to people with very friendly. But if you like social media more than I do. We have Facebook. We have Instagram. You can just look for alternative in the chiropractic.

00;48;03;15 - 00;48;06;15

Speaker 1

And from the Des Moines area, the Body Shop in Des Moines also.

00;48;06;17 - 00;48;09;05

Speaker 2

Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.

00;48;09;06 - 00;48;10;10

Speaker 1

Thanks for having me I appreciate it.

00;48;10;13 - 00;48;17;14

Speaker 2

Awesome.